В попытке предостеречь.
Оригинал здесь: http://www.astronomy.ru/forum/index....tml#msg1468879
ENGLISH VERSION BELOW.
SCAM ALBERTO JARA ROSALES.
"Дети, не будьте такими, как Влас" (С) Маяковский
Несколько стыдно выставлять себя идиотом  , но таковым по факту я и оказался. Речь о моей попытке купить Meade DSI iii pro. Так как перспектив нет и процесс "покупки" можно считать законченным, расскажу как я ... назовём это мягко, "ошибся".
Сначала я ~три месяца мониторил астромарт на предмет пробегающих там в продаже камер на 285 соневском чипе. Не найдя подходящего предложения, 18 января 2011 я разместил объявление "хочу": http://www.astromart.com/classifieds...fied_id=716800 .
21 января мне написал мужчино из Англии с предложением купить его камеру. Мы торговались, общались, в это время (25 января) через почту астромарта мне написал некто из Испании (Мадрида), предложивший ту же камеру по той же цене.
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The following message has been sent to you in response to your Astromart classified ad #716800 - 'DSI III only pro & DSI II pro/color'.
This email was sent by registered Astromart user Alberto Jara - jarapolari@gmail.com (Madrid Spain) via Astromart's email ad response system. Should you choose to reply to this email message, your response will be sent directly to the recipient and will not pass through or be associated with Astromart in any way. Astromart does not condone or tolerate spam (i.e., unsolicited commercial email) and is taking steps to protect members from this abuse.
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How you still interested,I have it still in good working condition and in perfect order. Good price is accepted, if you are interested in buying from me. Let me know your price as well as the your shipping contact address for shipping to your home. And i will get back to you with details. Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.
Best regards
Alberto Jara
Calle de las Huertas 34,
23512, Madrid, Spain,
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Sincerely,
The Astromart Staff
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http://www.buytelescopes.com
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После общения с мужчино, представившимся как Alberto Jara мы сошлись на том, что я высылаю ему 400$, он шлёт камеру, я досылаю остаток. Глупо, но я выслал эти самые 400 баксов через Western Union в пятницу.
Цитата:
Thanks for your email...I will be using UPS for delivery..The camera come with filters line,box, manual, cd, usb-cable
..Everything look clean and excellent..I cannot steal your money and attached is a pictures of me and my family..I am a happily married man with one daughter..I don't have a pictures of the camera,because my scanner is fauty..OK,I will prefer you send $400 to cover the shipping and insurance to your doorstep and when you receive the item and tested OK,You send me the balance..Hope you understand and below is my name and address for western union payment
For payment,You are to locate any western union agent office closer to you and give them my name and address below | Он их получил и пропал до понедельника. В понедельник пишет, "шли истчо":
Цитата:
Hope you are doing fine..I was out the shipping company yesterday to
process the shipping,I was not allowed to ship the item,I was told
that i need a license and tax papers from the custom office,before the
shipping can be done,when i got to the custom office,I was told that
it will cost 150USD for the license and tax papers,You are to send me
the money urgently so that i can process the shipping first thing
tomorrow morning thanks and get back to me urgently | Я попросил выслать мне деньги обратно, понимая, что на то шансов немного.
Вот прошла неделя, денег я не вижу, камеры не вижу. Поэтому пишу этот пост и это объявление: http://www.astromart.com/classifieds...fied_id=719663 , думаю сотрут скоро. Администрация астромарта игнорирует мои сообщения. Пара модераторов их форума ответила, что "переслали моё сообщение наверх".
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ENGLISH VERSION
I try to describe my attempt to buy Meade DSI iii pro. As I think process at end stage, I put this post about my mistake.
First of all I looked at astromart site about free months for ccd on sony285 chip for low price. After this, at 18 january 2011 I put my AD to astromart: http://www.astromart.com/classifieds...fied_id=716800 .
At 21 january I got email from men, living in England with offer to buy his dsi iii. At time we discuss trade, I got another offer (25 january) via astromart email system from someone, present for me as Alberto Jara from Spain / Madrid. He offer me same camera at same price.
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The following message has been sent to you in response to your Astromart classified ad #716800 - 'DSI III only pro & DSI II pro/color'.
This email was sent by registered Astromart user Alberto Jara - jarapolari@gmail.com (Madrid Spain) via Astromart's email ad response system. Should you choose to reply to this email message, your response will be sent directly to the recipient and will not pass through or be associated with Astromart in any way. Astromart does not condone or tolerate spam (i.e., unsolicited commercial email) and is taking steps to protect members from this abuse.
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How you still interested,I have it still in good working condition and in perfect order. Good price is accepted, if you are interested in buying from me. Let me know your price as well as the your shipping contact address for shipping to your home. And i will get back to you with details. Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.
Best regards
Alberto Jara
Calle de las Huertas 34,
23512, Madrid, Spain,
Note: Do not send replies to Astromart Website <website@astromart.com> as they will not be received, if your email program tries to reply to Astromart Website <website@astromart.com> please replace that address with the address of the inquiring user jarapolari@gmail.com
Sincerely,
The Astromart Staff
http://www.astromart.com
Astromart is a service provided by Anacortes Telescope & Wild Bird
http://www.buytelescopes.com
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I discuss trade with him, ask to photo and we come to this decision: I send 400 usd to him, he send camera, I check it and send balance. Not too much clever, but I send this 400 usd via Western Union at friday.
Цитата:
Thanks for your email...I will be using UPS for delivery..The camera come with filters line,box, manual, cd, usb-cable
..Everything look clean and excellent..I cannot steal your money and attached is a pictures of me and my family..I am a happily married man with one daughter..I don't have a pictures of the camera,because my scanner is fauty..OK,I will prefer you send $400 to cover the shipping and insurance to your doorstep and when you receive the item and tested OK,You send me the balance..Hope you understand and below is my name and address for western union payment
For payment,You are to locate any western union agent office closer to you and give them my name and address below | He got my money and at monday send me another email with ask "give me more money"
Цитата:
Hope you are doing fine..I was out the shipping company yesterday to
process the shipping,I was not allowed to ship the item,I was told
that i need a license and tax papers from the custom office,before the
shipping can be done,when i got to the custom office,I was told that
it will cost 150USD for the license and tax papers,You are to send me
the money urgently so that i can process the shipping first thing
tomorrow morning thanks and get back to me urgently | I ask to return my money back or solve this papers problem by self, but understand it scam  .
So, passed a week, I havnt no my money, no camera. So put this post at astromart http://www.astromart.com/classifieds...fied_id=719663 and here, and where i can. Astromart administration dont unswer me yet. Just got two messages from astromart moderators. They forward my email to someone upper. |
